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Written by Steve Meyers   
Wednesday, 25 August 2010 10:49

Read the article. Understand that 46 other states and thousands of communities and counties are having the same problem. Then think about what happens when they all see price levels tripped and they all attempt to hit the "sell" button a the same time.

Instead of just leaving you hanging.so what does this really mean?

Let's play a not so far fetched game of "what if"..

What if the Obama supporters and power brokers understand that their is not one single thing they can do to hold on to their majority in the House and possibly the Senate..

and

What if this pension crisis is the key they need to finish the goal of total control of the financial system within a centralized group of regulators under the Executive Branch in cooperation with the Federal Reserve..

and

What if they just stopped all market intervention from now until after the elections. The market corrects and despite reflex rallies is proceeds to a 40-50% correction after the Republican victory and the media plus administration convince enough idiots that the Republican victory is to blame.

and

What if they assembled a new law in the Lame Duck session which created a specific GSE which insured and backstopped all retirement plans, pensions (public or private), 401K's, IRA's, etc. and promised to reset the values of all of them to July 1, 2010 levels.

and

What if they took all of that money and invested it only the Primary Dealers of the Federal Reserve and into U.S. Treasury issues.

Sound far fetched? Think about who is in charge, read the various legislative acts that have been passed into law thus far, and consider that these people are playing for keeps. The winners? Bondholders of U.S. Treasury issues able to sell out at a profit, the Federal Reserve who can deleverage their balance sheet at taxpayer expense, and the Congress who will get credit for "reducing" the dependency on foreign purchasers of our crappy bonds and bills.

God help us, this is too logical and too obvious, thus I think it is a legitimate concern. Dow 4217 anyone?  John Galt

 

(Crain's) — Illinois Teachers' Retirement System, Springfield, plans to sell $3 billion in investments, or about 10% of its $33.1 billion in assets, in the current fiscal year to pay pension benefits, according to Dave Urbanek, public information officer.

The system is the fifth Illinois statewide defined benefit plan to sell off investments this fiscal year to pay benefits.

Illinois State Universities Retirement System, Champaign, expects to sell $1.2 billion in investments from its $12.2 billion defined benefit fund this fiscal year to raise liquidity to pay benefits to participants.

The Illinois State Board of Investment, Chicago, could sell $840 million investments from its $9.9 billion fund to pay benefits of the Illinois State Employees' Retirement System, Illinois Judges' Retirement System and Illinois General Assembly Retirement System. ISBI oversees the investments of the three systems.

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Josh  - I didn't know Ireland Downgraded again |2010-08-25 12:05:41
Interesting read that mentions it:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-25/morgan-stanley-says-government-bond-default-is-question-of- how-not-if-.html
SteveG  - As long as we are trying what-if's |2010-08-25 12:21:43
All of us that have 401K's had better recognize that they are toast, worthless, etc, if hyperinflation hits or Obama converts them to treasuries.

I'm considering borrowing the max amount (3-1/4%; money has been sitting in cash for 12 mo) and buying PM's. If nothing happens, keep the metal or sell and pay back the loan. If PM's go to the moon, sell a bit of metal to pay off the loan. Its a way of converting some of the 401K into PM's.

Has anyone else considered doing this?
Josh  - I have |2010-08-25 12:50:46
I did exactly what you said and almost have my loan paid back. I bought some PMs and paid off all my CC debt. I am getting ready for round 2 in October and was hoping silver would stay lower for another couple months.
Josh  - JPM Short Positions |2010-08-25 12:53:18
Mr. Meyers -
Looks like silver is going to close above that 18.81 and is off to the moon. What does this do to JPM and other big shorts and how do you think they will react?
SteveM |2010-08-25 13:11:43
Tomorrow is option expiration, if we scream past 19 then they could be in trouble. They have been scrambling to cover shorts but the position is so massive. We could see institutional failure if this market gets away from them.
Mars  - WED Hammer Time? |2010-08-25 13:19:20
Interesting the SP500 just exceeded 1051.79 (a prior wave low), so now it's either back up towards 1060.07, or reversal soon and challenge 1039.83
Looking at the SP500 Daily chart, today appears to be what the Japanese Candlestick followers call a "hammer"..........
The Hammer is a bullish reversal pattern that forms after a decline. In addition to a potential trend reversal, hammers can mark bottoms or support levels. After a decline, hammers signal a bullish revival. The low of the long lower shadow implies that sellers drove prices lower during the session. However, the strong finish indicates that buyers regained their footing to end the session on a strong note. While this may seem enough to act on, hammers require further bullish confirmation. The low of the hammer shows that plenty of sellers remain. Further buying pressure, and preferably on expanding volume, is needed before acting.
.............
and courtesy of Robert McHugh, he notes:...when we add up the divergence of thirteen 90 percent panic selling down days and eleven 90 percent panic buying up days since the April 26th 2010 top, when you see the completing large Head & Shoulders Top patterns from last November 2009, and now add the Hindenburg Omens to what was already a dangerous Elliott Wave map, the odds are too high for our blood that a dangerous sell-off is coming over the next several months.

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